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  • Bravve
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    Not a 5e character, but a character alchemist, would like the power of creating life. With that said it not the 'create a human' life.. But a galaxy or even bigger. .. And micromanage anything inside of it. In the game he would of course start small before entering the big league. With creating super monsters / dragons to take control of a country until he truly understand his powers.
    Then the micromanaging begins to see how far he can push it, until probably the planet is either dead or to boring and leave for the next.
    To keep himself alive he would create himself a body with no weakness that would be effect of time, food, and so on.
    And create clones of himself that would start to micromanaging another galaxy to speed up the process.

    Now how would it effect the game he was playing? The game would become as any other game playing with cheats.. Easy and boring. Well of course for the 'party' would enjoy the ride until the madness begins. The players would probably quit. But My gnome would love it and never look back
    Last edited by Bravve; 07-10-2023, 05:37 PM.

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  • Drew
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    I can't tell if this is meant for your 5e character or actually meant for you. It could go either way.

  • Luopo
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    I'd wish for a magic pie plate that would refill once a day with any pie I wished for--including meat pies like english pasties.

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  • RaistlinMC
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    That certainly is a tragic story.  Sorry that that happened to you, sir.

  • Drew
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    Not really the purpose of this thread but, hey, I'm sorry you had to experience that. I've lost beloved pets before it should have been their time as well, and I know how traumatic it can be. Hope you're doing okay.

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  • Adamstrokes
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    If i had one wish I could use, I'd bring back my pet who unfortunately suffocated in a storage box when my son (6 year old) accidently closed him in it.

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  • Drew
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    If you would, please tell me how you think those three wishes being granted for each of those characters in their respective games would affect the remainder of the game experience for you, and how it would affect the remainder of the game for your fellow players. Let's assume you're about 1/3 of the way through the game's story.

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  • Faeryl
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    Hmm.. well, my barbarian, Anja, would probably wish that nobody can ever utilize such things as the Wish/Limited Wish/Miracle spells ever again. Because she's from Thedas, where magic is almost constantly abused by people. Healing magic is okay for the most part, but open-ended stuff like Wish would cause her to immediately want to prevent its use. Imagine if some of the villains in Dragon Age had access to a Wish spell or three...

    My bard would probably wish to be the most popular performer in all the Realms. Her primary goal is popularity, after all.

    The only other PC I can recall that would actually use the wish for something interesting is the evil PC from a dead game that was basically all about a race to capture a spark of divinity. She would wish to be the most powerful of all deities, or, barring that, to be a Goddess of Destruction.

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  • RaistlinMC
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    As Ly proved recently in your game, Drew, the best use of Wish is not to wish for anything beyond casting an 8th level spell instantly.

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  • Drew
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    Yep, one could argue that losing the ability to use a power is the same as losing a power. The unforgiving GM, however, would probably disagree and point out that your wish was granted 'to the letter'. You asked to never lose the power. You technically haven't, since you retain the ability to use it but merely lack the cognitive capacity to do so anymore. You're no longer intelligent enough to understand that you are definitely not ok right now. If your world weren't on pause and someone, for some crazy reason, found you and cast some sort of spell on you that raised your intelligence back up to the point where you could once again think with reason and rationality, you'd realize that this isn't acceptable, your failsafe power would activate, and you'd time travel back to a time ten days prior to the time travel trip where you crashed into yourself. Because, using a technicality, the power was never gone. You literally didn't lose it, only couldn't use it for a while.
    Condition "If at any point i am about to loose my powers (including this one), EVEN if i had no way of knowing in advance that any of that would happen, then i would instantly travel back in time to the start of the most recent period of my life that i was physically & mentally safe that lasted at least 10days." has been met to the GM's satisfaction.

    Unfortunately the time that you are without the ability to use your power will likely end up being until the day you die. You're no longer intelligent enough to object to this. You can't lose your mind, either, being far too simple-minded for such a thing.
    Condition "If at any point i get killed (against my will) or loose my sanity, EVEN if i had no way of knowing in advance that any of that would happen, then i would instantly travel back in time to the start of the most recent period of my life that i was physically & mentally safe that lasted at least 10days." has been met to the GM's satisfaction.

    You retain all of your memories and experiences, even ones from timelines that don't exist anymore due to your actions, but they all lose their significance and are reduced to not much more than pleasing colors and shapes that you can call up whenever you like to cause your blob's mouths to curl up into horrific, drooling smiles of contented happiness.
    Condition "In any and all of my travels i retain any and all memories & experiences i collectively had through out my entire life, even if those memories/experiences some how lost in the way by ANY and ALL means." has been met to the GM's satisfaction.

    Your wish was examined and granted as it was worded, and if it was accomplished via the Wish spell or granted by an evil djinn, this is one possible outcome that you might receive if your game has a clever but nasty GM.

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  • Kerilstrasz
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    Originally posted by Drew View Post

    And I know the whole point of this thread is not to screw up the wishes, but to assume they are granted fully according to what the player was thinking and then talk about how that affects the rest of the game, the player's gaming experience, and the other players' gaming experiences, but I also can't resist the opportunity to mess with this one in particular.

    "Extremely happy with your verbiage and fully confident that you've left zero room for any monkey business, you take your newfound powers for a spin and find that they work perfectly. You manage to get a small handful of additional uses before you, unfortunately, learn what it means to become 'blobbed'. You see, each time you rocket through the corridors of time, you are more and more likely to encounter a past or future version of yourself who is also doing some time traveling. Eventually you and another version of yourself will have a head-on collision. When that happens, the two of you combine and become a big blob of flesh, eyes, and teeth.

    "You still arrive at whatever point in time you were aiming for, and time stops just as it should. You're unable to resume it, though, because your blobbed brain can no longer form cohesive mental commands. You still have your powers. They haven't gone anywhere. You're now just too simple in the head to use them. You're also too simple to ever go insane or object to dying of starvation or old age, so you live out the remainder of your blob life in a paused world until you pass away, at which point the world becomes unpaused again. At least you had all of your past memories and experiences to keep you company through the decades. Your infant-like brain derived a lot of joy and entertainment from the stories they contained."
    one could argue that...
    loosing the ability to use or control a power is the same as loosing the power.
    I have a skill/knowledge. Let's say i am the great theoretical physicists Steven Hawking.
    Due to an illness i loose my physical & mental qualities that allow me to move and speak.
    I can still think, thus i retain my knowledge & skill. I'm still a theoretical physicist.
    Due to an illness i loose my ability to think to my previous capacity. Thus,
    im no longer a theoretical physicist, thus i loose my knowledge &/or skill... my power.
    Que rewind to a time i was still ok.
    I'm smiling at how Steven Hawking was actually studying time :P

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  • Drew
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    Originally posted by Kerilstrasz View Post
    To be honest, i never spent the time to learn how Wish works, other than stories of people using it to great success or failure,
    mostly because i never had a caster that high lvl to be able to cast it.

    That said, and forgive me if in my ignorance i overstep on Wish's power, i would ask something in the lines of: ...

    "I wish for the power to have the SOLELY and ABSOLUTE control over time itself.
    Be able to travel back (&/or forward (according to your time travel preferred version)) as an at will, no action required mental command.
    I will be able to stop, reverse, forward and resume time as i see fit; for the entire world, a specific person or object, or any area or time period that ever existed or will be.
    I ll be able to pinpoint,choose & travel to the exact moment i wish at any time with no physical, mental or material cost.
    If at any point i get killed (against my will), loose my sanity or i am about to loose my powers (including this one), EVEN if i had no way of knowing in advance that any of that would happen, then i would instantly travel back in time to the start of the most recent period of my life that i was physically & mentally safe that lasted at least 10days.
    In any and all of my travels i retain any and all memories & experiences i collectively had through out my entire life, even if those memories/experiences some how lost in the way by ANY and ALL means.
    At the time of me initiating such a "travel", i can include any number of living, dead, animated or inanimate objects & creatures to travel with me.
    Upon arriving at target time point, the time will stop for the entire world but me (or those i brought with me) until i choose to resume time."

    OBVIOUSLY, i know that if the above was possible & "grandable", it would break any game.
    I share this just as a "mind exercise" .
    And I know the whole point of this thread is not to screw up the wishes, but to assume they are granted fully according to what the player was thinking and then talk about how that affects the rest of the game, the player's gaming experience, and the other players' gaming experiences, but I also can't resist the opportunity to mess with this one in particular.

    "Extremely happy with your verbiage and fully confident that you've left zero room for any monkey business, you take your newfound powers for a spin and find that they work perfectly. You manage to get a small handful of additional uses before you, unfortunately, learn what it means to become 'blobbed'. You see, each time you rocket through the corridors of time, you are more and more likely to encounter a past or future version of yourself who is also doing some time traveling. Eventually you and another version of yourself will have a head-on collision. When that happens, the two of you combine and become a big blob of flesh, eyes, and teeth.

    "You still arrive at whatever point in time you were aiming for, and time stops just as it should. You're unable to resume it, though, because your blobbed brain can no longer form cohesive mental commands. You still have your powers. They haven't gone anywhere. You're now just too simple in the head to use them. You're also too simple to ever go insane or object to dying of starvation or old age, so you live out the remainder of your blob life in a paused world until you pass away, at which point the world becomes unpaused again. At least you had all of your past memories and experiences to keep you company through the decades. Your infant-like brain derived a lot of joy and entertainment from the stories they contained."

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  • Drew
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    Oh, it would absolutely break any game, you're right about that. But that's exactly what I want people to think about and speak further on. If your character was actually given this power, exactly as you described it, exactly as you intended it to be, how long would it be before you as a player grew bored because there was no challenge in the game anymore? If there are other people in your game playing characters of their own, how do you think the gaming experience will change for those players?

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  • RaistlinMC
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    I hope - truly, truly hope - someone gets to Wish for something in my game with you, K. Nothing makes me grin an evil GM grin more than folks trying to out-smart Wish. haha

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  • Kerilstrasz
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    To be honest, i never spent the time to learn how Wish works, other than stories of people using it to great success or failure,
    mostly because i never had a caster that high lvl to be able to cast it.

    That said, and forgive me if in my ignorance i overstep on Wish's power, i would ask something in the lines of: ...

    "I wish for the power to have the SOLELY and ABSOLUTE control over time itself.
    Be able to travel back (&/or forward (according to your time travel preferred version)) as an at will, no action required mental command.
    I will be able to stop, reverse, forward and resume time as i see fit; for the entire world, a specific person or object, or any area or time period that ever existed or will be.
    I ll be able to pinpoint,choose & travel to the exact moment i wish at any time with no physical, mental or material cost.
    If at any point i get killed (against my will), loose my sanity or i am about to loose my powers (including this one), EVEN if i had no way of knowing in advance that any of that would happen, then i would instantly travel back in time to the start of the most recent period of my life that i was physically & mentally safe that lasted at least 10days.
    In any and all of my travels i retain any and all memories & experiences i collectively had through out my entire life, even if those memories/experiences some how lost in the way by ANY and ALL means.
    At the time of me initiating such a "travel", i can include any number of living, dead, animated or inanimate objects & creatures to travel with me.
    Upon arriving at target time point, the time will stop for the entire world but me (or those i brought with me) until i choose to resume time."

    OBVIOUSLY, i know that if the above was possible & "grandable", it would break any game.
    I share this just as a "mind exercise" .

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